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callistra ([personal profile] callistra) wrote2006-10-29 11:09 am
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50 Things idea that Cassiphone did

Some friends and I were talking about the 50 Women from Roman History thing that Cassiphone did, and how much we enjoyed reading it. So, my friend and I were talking about ones that we could do. I've yet to see anything on my friend's journal, but she is extraordinarily busy, so maybe she won't get time to do what we talked about, but I have been thinking more on my personal challenge since.

However, I want a broad category because I was to do 50 women in the public sphere/feminists/pagans/authors. Not necessarily people who mean anything to me, and to a large degree it might be a quick read of the wikepedia entry followed by some thoughts and anecdotes from my own personal view, but hey, my blog's been quiet lately and the only way to fill what's empty is to empty what's full... and it's time I put some more energy, even oblique energy into Femmeconne. In a way, I wish I was an expert, but realistically the only thing I can be an expert at is being me. I can't wax lyrical about much for long (except food. Don't get me started on food. But I am thinking of covering a female chef in Iron Chef America.) I can't remember history or dates or stories or anecdotes. I forget what I'm reading, what I've read, the meanings behind things and the meanings before things. I'd like to be an expert. But really, I'm pretty damned happy to be an expert at being me.

:-)

Ok, women I am going to list here so I don't forget. Feel free to suggest people for me to check out.

- Ariel Levy (author of Female Chauvenist Pigs)
- Starhawk
- Laurie Cabot
- the female chef from Iron Chef America. This might include some whining about how crap ICA is. Cato? Is that her name? Will have to find out, now won't i?
- Kylie Kwong (sydney chef)
- Sue White (CEO of Intimo)
- Freida Kahlo
- Zoe from Firefly
- Noami Wolf
- Ginmar
- Germaine Greer
- Octavia Butler
- Andre Norton
- Inga Muscio ("Cunt: A Declaration of Independance" which apparently Wiki does not have an entry for. At all. Hmmm.)

I'm going to think about this some more over the next few days. So, fourteen so far. Do I have to have this list finished before I start? :-)

By the by...

hey, did you guys know Joss is a feminist? (From Wikipedia)

"Whedon identifies himself as a feminist, and feminist themes are common in his work. The most obvious example is the apparently weak teenage girl who is actually extremely strong and powerful, seen in Buffy, Firefly, and Serenity. Feminist scholars have given Whedon's work both positive and negative assessments. For his part, Whedon credits his mother as the inspiration for his feminist worldview. When Roseanne Barr asked him how he could write so well for women, he replied, "If you met my mom, you wouldn't ask." [4]

The character Kitty Pryde from the X-Men comic was an early model for Whedon's strong teenage girl characters: "If there's a bigger influence on Buffy than Kitty, I don’t know what it was. She was an adolescent girl finding out she has great power and dealing with it." [5] Many of Whedon's young female characters make similar discoveries. Whedon has now come full circle, writing the character of Kitty Pryde in the Astonishing X-Men comic."

[identity profile] mynxii.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Kaylee from Firefly? Can you have more than one from the same location? I thought she was a different kind of female character that i'd rarely seen before.

[identity profile] liluri.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ursula K. Le Guin

Natasha Stott Despoja

Traci Harding

Wendy Rule

Beth Orton

Rosaleen Norton

Angie Hart

[identity profile] cassiphone.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I can't tell you how cool I think this is. (I'm an inspiration! Woo!) I really look forward to reading your posts - & do let me know your friend's LJ name if she does likewise.

I think 50 inspiring women is a fabulous topic. I can't believe people are still talking about my Roman women posts... :)

[identity profile] hkneale.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
That would be me.

I loved your series so much, I thought I'd do one up based on the period and location in history I knew muchly about.

But yes, I'm rather busy at the moment and dunno if I'll get it up for another few months.

[identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Which is a pity because I have had all sorts of people who I told about your idea who went "That would be fantastic! I'd love to read something like that!"

[identity profile] hkneale.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Gimmie time and it'll happen.

Given the availability of research materials (as I am on the opposite side of the planet from all my original sources), I dunno if it'll be thirty or fifty. I've already got more than ten names lined up.

"Cunt: A Declaration of Independence"

[identity profile] liluri.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
It is mentioned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inga_Muscio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt

[identity profile] amarillion.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Cate Blanchett -Just because she always strikes me as so very coool.

[identity profile] livelurker.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not so sure about Kylie Kwong. We only enjoyed one recipe we tried out of her book (her sweet and sour pork).

[identity profile] lilysea.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
The cartoonist Judy Horacek.
http://www.horacek.com.au/home.htm

[identity profile] lilysea.livejournal.com 2006-05-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Incidentally, via Azahru, something that I thought would amuse/interest you:

The website "All about my vagina" by Sarah now has its own livejournal rss feed for the blog section:

http://syndicated.livejournal.com/allaboutmyvag/

W people

(Anonymous) 2006-05-30 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Some ideas.

Professor Fiona Stanley
Dr Fiona Wood
Carmen Laurence
Cheryl Kernot
Delirium of the Endless
Flute/Aphrael
Dr. Sara Warneke (hehehe)
Isobelle Carmody
Princess Diana
Eva Peron
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Audrey Hepburn

[identity profile] babalon-93.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
hmm, random suggestions off the top of my head, in no particular order:
James Tiptree Jr
Fiona Horne
Tori Amos
Arni di Franco
Marylin Monroe
Sandra Bernheart
Madonna
Rosanne Barr
Oprah
Naomi Wolf
Inna May Gaskin
Germaine Greer
Nancy Friday
Sharon Stone
Susan Sarandon
Halo Jones
Death (Gaiman's)
Joni Mitchel
Chrisie Amphlet
Yoko Ono
Judith Durham
Catherine Bigalow
Gretel Colleen
Woopi Goldberg
Lori Anderson
Leila (Laylah) Wadell
Cindi Lauper
KK Juggy




but wait, there's more...

[identity profile] babalon-93.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
some more suggestions for you to wiki...

Phoolan Devi
Ita Butrose
Margret Thatcher
Margret Mead
Virginia Woolfe
Indira Gandhi
Sylvia Plath
Annie Sprinkle

Re: but wait, there's more...

[identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com 2006-06-01 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I saw Bandit Queen andit made me cry. And then later I found out Phoolan was killed by bandits after all, and it made me cry more.
:-(

Hint: Don't watch Elizabeth and Bandit Queen back to back. It does weird things to you.
:-)
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Re: but wait, there's more...

[identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com 2006-06-10 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Just grab all the good suggestions why don't you ;)
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a couple more

[identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com 2006-06-10 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Kate Adie. (Yay, a Northumbrain! :)

Uhura/Nichelle Nichols (who also inspired Whoopi Goldberg)


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[identity profile] shrydar.livejournal.com 2006-06-11 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Davina McCall
Carol Vorderman
Marianne Faithfull
Edith Piaf
Maggie Tabberer

hello!

[identity profile] starla80.livejournal.com 2006-07-18 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm a friend of doctor_k_ and have seen some of your entries on her f-list and journal. Do you mind if I add you?

Cheers, Liz. :)

Re: hello!

[identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com 2006-07-18 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Feel free! It's been pretty quiet around here lately though!!

I expect that might be changing again soon!

[identity profile] babalon-93.livejournal.com 2006-07-29 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
ooh, I thought of another really good candidate for this list today... Amanda Keller.

interesting connection

[identity profile] sirenewitch.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no comment on your list except to say that you seem to be well begun. I dont know you either except to say that I have never seen your user name before my best friend used it years ago. She also lives in Australia now, Brisbane. I know, long stretch to the connection but I checked out your user info and you seem like a very interesting person. The the nutshell version.

Have you ever heard the term "femaleist"?

Good luck with your project!

Sirene

Re: interesting connection

[identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com 2006-08-12 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Eh! I have heard but not actually looked into femaleist yet.
:-) I've been kind of distracted by personal stuff recently, so my research and learning has kind of slowed down. Plus with Femmeconne only weeks away, I need to get some work into that!
:-)

You seem pretty interesting too; I was thinking last night that it's been a while since I did any sort of ritual. I shall have to rectify this. :-)

And your friend used Callistra or Callisto? I found Callisto was being used by a man who didn't seem to update very often, and so took my next best thing. Plus I also use Callishandra occasionally. Once found another Callishandra on the internet, it was a single reference to a WOW character. :-)

Re: interesting connection

[identity profile] sirenewitch.livejournal.com 2006-08-17 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
she actually used Callistra and I had always thought she just made it up.

Femaleist just seems to be the difference between male bashing in the attempt to gain equality as some feminists types seem to do; and celebrating the inate (biological?) differences between male and female while working towards a societal attitude of equality with regards to function, ability and intelligence.
I wish I could find the excellent documentary that I once saw on the topic but I have searched for a few years and not found it. The term is also not widely used and always ends up leading towards something Camille Paglia-ish.

Enjoy your ritual!
Sirene

[identity profile] willowgypsy.livejournal.com 2006-09-13 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, obviously I am going to say Willow - if you are doing 'characters' like Zoe and Kaylee.

But:
Jennifer Byrne
Condoleeza Rice
Cathy Freeman
Deborah Mailman