callistra: Fuschia from Sinfest crying her heart out next to Hell's flames (Default)
OK, so I am running around trying to get organized enough so that the cloth nappy thing is in place and can not be avoided. Bablon_93 has very kindly offered to sew some up so they are less bulky and annoying, and I am running around getting snappi nappi locks, nappy liners (disposable or not, managed to find a pack of 100 disposables, buuuut...) and getting everything ready so when the switch is made I can't just wuss out because I got sick and miscarried and got depressed and all those other excuses I had last time I tried. :-)

Buuuuuuut.... it just seems to me that there seems to be less and less of the stuff I need to be able to do this. I need about 2 or 3 days worth of stuff, 2 days for wearing and a day for wearing during washing, if that makes sense. So, if we average say 4 or so nappies a day, (we're going to stick with disposables at night) and I need a new pair of plastic pants each time we change nappies then I need 12 plastic pants. If I could get them in the right size. Or if they were there at all. Hmmm.

I also wanted a couple more snappy nappi locks. They replace the pins we used to use to fix the nappies on. I aint seeing any of these either. Hmmmm.

I bought another 12 pack of cloth nappies. The packaging is torn, and they were the last ones. Hmmmm.

When something is missing, I rather paranoidly think: ack! They're not stocking it any more! But then reason kicks in - why should they stock it anyway, if they're in it for profit, and if I get into the swing of this nappy thing then I won't be buying anything other than powder off them anyway. (Although, having just gulped down the last of my coke, I know one thing I can't live without any more. My thoughts about buying an 18 pack and then hiding them around the house means I may have a new problem there....)

So, on the tails of talking to various people about the way we exchange energy for money and money for energy and in the end companies are all in it for the profit but the humans are in it for the food, drink and clothing, does this mean that one day I'll be going into a tiny, dilapidated shop where they obviously can't afford to fix anything or employ a 14yo to dust anything to buy stuff which has a low profit margin and high re-use value?

I also don't know where it's going to be, since my suburb is getting a bit of a face lift! Our butcher moved a shop sideways into better, newer, shinier shop. The baker is crossing the mall into a newer, shinier, better shop, and we've just got one of the nicest and largest Subways I have ever seen. Everything is so shiny new! :-)

Date: 2006-11-01 01:12 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] babalon-93.livejournal.com
I stabbed myself with a snappy this morning! Still hurts!

if you are buying nappies for me to hack and sew it is much cheaper, easier and more efficient to sew if you get old towels from the opp-shop or fabric by the metre. I just use the pre-made cloth ones 'cause I already have them, so might as well use them.

I always wonder why the fitted cloth nappies aren't for sale in shops, you can hardly even get the terry squares anymore, but you have really answered my question.

Date: 2006-11-01 01:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lauredhel.livejournal.com
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Would you like a list of places you can buy modern cloth nappies face-to-face in Perth (shops, markets, home consultants)? We have one.

Also just a note on plastic pants... some people find them ok (and economical), but a lot of people prefer more breathable and more functional covers made of PUL, fleece or wool. If you don't want to buy retail, fleece is particularly easy to sew - I've even hand-sewn a couple! - and wool covers you can sew from op shop wool jumpers if you've a notion to.

Anyway - you sure know where to find me :)

Lara

Date: 2006-11-01 01:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lauredhel.livejournal.com
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(oh, and baby powder is just fragranced cornstarch - so you don't need to buy that, either :)

Date: 2006-11-01 11:11 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
We don't tend to use baby powder every change; we wipe him over, and then dry him a bit with a tissue before putting the new nappy on. He hasn't had much in the way of nappy rash or anything. Should I be powdering him more?

Date: 2006-11-02 01:26 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lauredhel.livejournal.com
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I never used powder.

Have emailed you separately about the nappy kit...

Powder

Date: 2006-11-07 01:44 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] battblush.livejournal.com
Okay, I'm late to arrive at this post, but I'm really enjoying it.

I never ever used powder on my children as I'd read talc was linked to ovarian cancer (I'm not sure if it was for a problem for the mother of the child, but I decided to avoid it either way).

I also clean and dry and leave the skin to itself most of the time. Occasionally I use zinc and castor oil cream if a rash develops, but usually find that nappy free time each day prevents rash anyway.

Re: Powder

Date: 2006-11-07 09:33 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
Would you be interested if I held a nappy info afternoon with afternoon tea etc?

Date: 2006-11-01 11:12 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
and yeah, corn flour or we have the Tinderbox baby powder which has long discussions of normal powder being talc and not good for babies and... and ... and...

Date: 2006-11-01 11:07 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
I read a lot of the ozlothnappies faq the other day (my there's a lot there) and went and checked out the baby beehinds stuff and things like that, but I'd be hesitant to make some poor girl come to my house and show me everything because I might not buy anything! And what if my friends didn't want to either?
!
Since I am in partyplan, I tend to wait until I know I will buy from the consultant, cos I know what a pain it can be!

Date: 2006-11-01 11:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
Eh!
:-)

Too late!
:-)

Mind you, I was amused to spot that disposable nappies incur GST, but then so do the cloth nappies! Go Go GST Government!

Date: 2006-11-01 03:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] fred-mouse.livejournal.com
some random thoughts:
- plastic pants not so good - I tended to only use them if we ran out of anything else, or as 'training' pants, with nothing in them. we did have some fabulous plastic pants that breathed really well, but no idea where we got them, spent much time on two continents trying to locate them. I was pretty happy with the fluffies brand pants (don't buy target brand - no gusset) - they have more reliable elastic than most plastic ones.
- snappies are vicious.
- if you can't find what you are after in the shops, ask Freecycle - I gave all of my stuff away either there or to friends, I'm pretty sure that there would be other people out there ready to pass on.
- I always found nappy liners to be a nuisance. You can't flush them, you aren't supposed to put them in the bin with poo still on them, so you still end up washing the poo off, and they don't survive more than a wash or two. I have heard of people buying chux, and cutting them up to make liners, but never tried it myself. I just stuck with nappies with no liners, and it seemed to work pretty well.

Date: 2006-11-01 03:10 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lauredhel.livejournal.com
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We were very happy with fleece liners (either separate, or sewn on to the nappy or booster), and terry, sherpa or flannelette wipes. I never could see the point of having to separate wipes and liners from nappies - it sounds like more work to me, not less.

(I know Calli knows this, but if there are other nappiers in the thread who are interested, please feel free to check out my FAQ and links collection at www.ozclothnappies.org - not an ad, we're non-commercial.)

Lara

Date: 2006-11-01 11:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] callistra.livejournal.com
One of the million things I mised at Femmeconne was the nappy display. I thought about asking if I could still have a look recently, but since I have no idea where any one lives and I don't get out of the house so much recently, and babalon_93 offered to do something with stuff I already had...
:-)

I considered buying the ones that have all the layers already sewn in, but I already had all these other nappies, and it gets very confusing as to what does having everything sewn in mean anyway?

I did a lot of reading at Ozclothnappies the other day, which was a fantastic resource, by the way. :-)
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Date: 2006-11-29 02:53 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] fred-mouse.livejournal.com
don't know how I missed this one coming through...

youngest child is out of nappies, except at night. I've used disposables at night for a fair while, as I found the mix of disposables and fabric worked to keep the nappy rash away with eldest child. I never used a nappy bucket with a lid - I used two 10 litre buckets, in the washing trough (one for wet, one for soiled). Wet nappies went into the next load of washing, soiled ones got scrubbed and soaked (although I understand that soaking isn't necessarily part of the process these days, I had the habit and didn't stop). Sometimes used commercial nappy soaker, but usually just a heaped tablespoon of bicarb in the water. Don't soak for too long though - goes scummy.

Snappi Locks

Date: 2006-11-07 01:36 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] battblush.livejournal.com
I have to warn you against the snappi locks. I used them a few times for Aiden but that was it. I shunned them for the other boys. They were always grabbing on his testicles and ripping into him. We shopped around, tried many things and in the end decided Safety Pins really were the most reliable and safest option.

My former mother in law bought me a type of velcro pilchers that breathed, and did up at the front in much the same way disposables do. They were fantastic. I can't remember what they were called but we bought them from Big W or one of those.

Re: Snappi Locks

Date: 2006-11-29 02:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] fred-mouse.livejournal.com
hear hear on the snappies. I've still got scars in my fingers. And yet I know people who swear by them. But be warned, there are nappy pins and there are nappy pins. Don't get the ones where you have to pull the head to unlock them - they bite too.

And the pilchers we had that sounded like that were Eeenie Weenies, but I've never worked out where to buy them - I lucked into a couple of pairs at opshops (brilliant for swimming pants - use with nothing inside, or with a face washer).

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